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Re: “Joining Encounter in Progress” should have a confirmation check
GloatingSwine wrote: »Just give every dungeon boss a guaranteed one-shot heavy attack they always start the fight with so that if you run in before the tank has aggro you die every time.
Big NO to this. It would make soling dungeons impossible which is fun for many players, myself included.
Re: Vengeance has officially ended the THREE BANNERS WAR
On PC EU every Alliance has 3 bars despite no Vengeance golden pursuit but undaunted golden pursuit and event keeping player busy elsewhere so everyone there chose to play Vengeance PvP to play Vengeance not to finish golden pursuit.
With Vengeance cap being 3 times normal cap that is like 3 bars GreyHost, Blackreach and Ravenwatch which even last MYM barely managed.
Like you said yourself PvP on PC NA wasn’t full populated for weeks so it seems more like a general PvP problem.
With Vengeance cap being 3 times normal cap that is like 3 bars GreyHost, Blackreach and Ravenwatch which even last MYM barely managed.
Like you said yourself PvP on PC NA wasn’t full populated for weeks so it seems more like a general PvP problem.
Iriidius
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Re: Gatekeeping and the Beam Meta
Nah it's bad players. There will always be a best set right up until they put us all in the same gear like the PvP tests that are happening. Then players will want to kick you for not running to next pull quick enough or standing in the wrong spot or who knows what. Those bad players are still going to be bad players.
What changes would make the bad players suddenly become decent?
its not "just bad player" prior to this year i've NEVER seen that many group in group finder actively refusing HA or onebar build.
If you want to stay on copium and say everything normal and its always been that way, well i can't pull you out of your cognitive dissonance.
Asdara
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VENGEANCE needs to be applied to TRAIL GROUPS
Since Vengeance is so awesome, I propose we also apply this ruleset to Trial groups. I think the fact that the builds are simpler and easier to understand would make us PVPers able to handle PVE content.
If PVEers need simpler builds to compete in PVP, then PVPers need simpler builds to understand the complex PVE.
This is only fair.
Vengeance for PVE as well!
If PVEers need simpler builds to compete in PVP, then PVPers need simpler builds to understand the complex PVE.
This is only fair.
Vengeance for PVE as well!
ADawg
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Vengeance Server
No one plays it!
How did you not learn your lesson the first time the server was up?
How is this a good business decision?
To further compound the annoyance, you disable all other cyrodiil instances!!!
Who is making decisions down there?!
who is empowering the person who makes decisions down there?! (who hired the decision maker)
greyhost, you have a server that consistently nears the population limit during regular service hours. then, you implement the vengeance campaign and the servers go empty. the population went from NEAR FULL TO NEAR EMPTY. WHY DID YOU BRING THAT DEAD THING BACK TO LIFE?
Im beyond amazed. not just that you made the vengeance campaign, but that you didn't learn your lesson the first time.
the fact no one plays it defeats the fundamental reason you made it. you cant test performance limits on an empty server no one plays!!!!!
How did you not learn your lesson the first time the server was up?
How is this a good business decision?
To further compound the annoyance, you disable all other cyrodiil instances!!!
Who is making decisions down there?!
who is empowering the person who makes decisions down there?! (who hired the decision maker)
greyhost, you have a server that consistently nears the population limit during regular service hours. then, you implement the vengeance campaign and the servers go empty. the population went from NEAR FULL TO NEAR EMPTY. WHY DID YOU BRING THAT DEAD THING BACK TO LIFE?
Im beyond amazed. not just that you made the vengeance campaign, but that you didn't learn your lesson the first time.
the fact no one plays it defeats the fundamental reason you made it. you cant test performance limits on an empty server no one plays!!!!!
Re: We should get a Battle Royale / Extraction PvP mode using Vengeance skills
As soon as I read Battle Royale my eyes rolled...
Please God NO!
Please God NO!
ADawg
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Re: Vengeance has officially ended the THREE BANNERS WAR
Did they seriously release vengeance during Undaunted Celebration event? Who the **** is making these decisions?
Aliniel
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Re: Official Discussion Thread for "Cyrodiil Cries Out Again for PvP Vengeance!"
Three-teams BGs rewards: Daily XP.
Two-teams BGs rewards: Daily XP, endeavors, golden pursuits, battlemaster tokens and obscene amounts of transmutation crystals.
Can you imagine the size of the BG population if players had been given the choice to stay in 4v4v4 and receive the same bait-incentives?
Re: Gatekeeping and the Beam Meta
PurpleScroll wrote: »Oh I've had some really stupid toxicity from people in dungeons before. I enjoy playing a nightblade tank, it was a random normal daily and I got FG1 (urgh). No one died, we got through it quickly, but one DD at the end started insulting me because 'nightblades can't be tanks', thankfully the healer backed me up and said 'no one died? what's your problem?'.
Random normal daily in FG1 and... someone first of all paid attention that there was an actual tank and then proceeded to complain about the class of said tank?
Meta chasers tend to forget that any class, any race can do any role and pass pretty much all content. Meta helps you to push scores, but nb is a pretty good tank in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing. I have a friend who is a nb main, plays all roles with it and even as a pure class is a great tank.
Tanking is my weakest role, but even I have finished DLC HM content tanking with my high elf templar, pure class.
Speaking of which, we recently helped a couple of players in vDSA. He tanked with his nb and I loaded a lazy HA build for the healer role with my high elf templar. Basic oakensoul, sergeant, storm master. I just added a burst heal, energy orb and templars heal ring and that's enough for vDSA. Oh yeah, and a taunt for the last boss.
I'm not whipping out my meta builds for a base game HM or vDSA. OakenHA is plenty for those. Way less button pressing for content that doesn't require button pressing. In fact, did pledges yesterday, first with my templar, then with my meta arca dd. With the templar I switched to an actual healer on Dread Cellar HM, but the base games went pretty much at the same speed, although my dps was waaaaay higher with the meta arca. Everything melts that fast that does it really matter if you finish tempest island in 7 minutes or 8. Forgetting to roll at the last boss will cause more delay than using a HA build.
Re: ESO is not a sci fi spaceship shoot-em up (or at least it shouldn't be)
Arcanist was ZOS's answer to getting more people into more content... raising the floor on the DPS spread. On the low end you have the casual players, the people who can't or won't light attack weave, the people who aren't interested in practicing a rotation for hours on end, and the people who don't understand sets and rotations. ZOS had been trying for years to lower the ceiling on DPS... stuff like capping crit damage. It never worked. With oakensoul they started the effort to raise the floor. Now people who couldn't or wouldn't bar swap could still get decent DPS. Arc is the ultimate answer to raising the floor. They stopped caring that the top end elite players would now parse 120k or higher; it was just more important to raise the floor from sub-50k to something that could get them into vet content... more like 90k. But since Arc ALSO substantially raised the ceiling, the top end DPSers also played the class... most raids were 6 or more parse arcs. Subclassing is just doubling down on that concept. Now you can take the three most potent skill lines and stack them. The ceiling is now, what? 170k? More? I stopped following it. But it also raised the floor some more. Now anyone can tackle any content, which is pretty much what ZOS's goal was from what I can see. They have had many opportunities to nerf arcs. They have chosen repeatedly not to because it is doing EXACTLY what they wanted it to do. Beam isn't going anywhere, and if it distresses you so much to see it, this probably isn't the game for you anymore.
Oakensoul with heavy attacks started to help newer player and less experienced, but heavy attacks were nerfed to herald in Arcanist. Probably mostly because they couldn't figure out how to prevent the pvp damage. Personally I don't see the problem with Arcanist, but do think they need to look at other class skills to give them more use/love. I would love to see jabby jabs get more power. Sorc heavy attackers got another nerf recently with the loss of 8% resource pool. I really wish they would replace some of the loss of power via buffing/unnerfing void mantle's resources, passive adjustment, or improving sets like undaunted unweaver and infiltrator (I think that is the mag and stam sets) and replace the stat parts with crit dmg or sd/wd. They keep adding heavy attack themed sets and mythics and not actually knowing what is needed to make it fun. I don't think anyone is going to use the next mythic.
Anyways Arcanist is obviously very powerful because of its cleave potential, but it is also very fun to player because they nerfed many of the viable aoe farming builds. I would not be opposed to the ability to tone down others special effects, heck I would like a way to turn off others emote sounds as well. Not everyone appreciates bards all the time. I have no clue what the top end dps is anymore, I stopped doing end game for the most part because it stopped being fun getting close to clearing the content then being nerfed and set back 6 months.
